Skip to Main Content
RAM Structural System Ideas

Welcome to the RAM Structural System Ideas portal. The purpose of this site is to post ideas for enhancements and new features. We value your feedback and our team regularly reviews your suggestions for consideration in future releases.

You have 3 options for providing feedback:

  1. Vote for an existing Idea. The popularity of an Idea helps us understand its importance to our users.

  2. Comment on an existing Idea. We want to hear your unique point of view.

  3. Add a new Idea. If no existing Idea describes what you would like, add a new one!

When you Vote, Comment, or Add an idea you will also be subscribed to that Idea and will receive status updates. Please note that we may merge or rename Ideas for clarity. Thank you for your support and feedback, it is always appreciated!

Status Needs review
Created by Guest
Created on Sep 21, 2026

Clarify / Correct Roof Live Load vs Snow Load Combinations

From the RAM Manager, the Criteria > Member Loads dialog has a section labeled "Snow vs Roof Live Load" and says "From version 2026, both roof and snow loads are considered." In ASCE 7-16 and 7-22 section 2.2 "Symbols", and IBC 2021 section 1602.1 "Notations", there is a clearly defined parameter "Lr" that is called "Roof live load".

In ASCE 7-16 and ASCE 7-22, the live roof load, Lr, is never taken in combination with the snow load. It is always listed (Lr or S or R). IBC 2021 refer to ASCE 7 for it's load combinations and therefore matches nomenclature.

Based on this understanding of the code definitions of these terms, the intuitive interpretation is that RAM is "considering" "Roof live load" and "Snow load" in separate combinations and using the worst case to design the members.

However, RAM is clearly considering snow loads and live loads labeled as "Roof" loads in the "Surface Load Properties" at the same time for joists. I verified this by looking at the applied load and design report, which clearly combined the "live load" of type "roof" with the snow load. This is very contrary to the expect behavior, and produces loads significantly higher than considering either "roof live load" or "snow load". It's also inconsistent with beams that are being designed for LRFD, which is properly separating roof live load and snow load.

This confusing presentation can lead to costly oversights and I strongly encourage at minimum that the language be revised. Ideally, RAM would offer additional functionality that allows both "roof live loads" as defined by code and "snow loads" be considered in their own separate load combinations for joists. Members would then be designed for the worst cast of these designs. This would be a helpful and efficient coverage of possibilities for users and a very welcomed feature I know at least our firm has been dreaming of for a long time.

See the attached for examples of the dialogs and reports mentioned in this product support request.

My RAM Manager Version: 26.00.00.222.

  • Attach files